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StormDragonZ · Jan 16, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

I've seen gold items and mods sell for drastically different prices just because of one percent...

Is something (Chance: 20%) that much of a difference compared to (Chance: 19%)?

arbiter · Jan 16, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

i tested 14%>50 and 15>50 with wild blow against some1 with no armor using frenzy and it made literally no difference.

So imo it makes 0 difference it just looks better

Jake_Steel · Jan 16, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

It is one percent different.

Zahr Dalsk · Jan 16, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

It's epeen, plain and simple.

redant751 · Jan 16, 2008, 07:24 AM // 07:24

I have noted that the difference is so small it's not noticeable at all.
I have a few Axes/Swords 20/19 15>50 +29 health and they work just as well as my 20/20 15>50 +30 heath Axes/Swords.

The one point off mods are a lot cheaper and just as effective as the Perfect Mods.
Hey it's a good way to save a few Plat.

strcpy · Jan 16, 2008, 07:25 AM // 07:25

From a technical point of view - no no difference.

However, I have 300 or so plat in the bank not including other "wealth" - for quite a number out there I'm poor. If one takes into account my "other" wealth (thing not in just what GW shows as my gold) I'm well over 1000k. Even then, I'm poor.

What better do I have to spend my gold on? I have no reason to find anything other than max - for the vast majority of things out there I have numerous near max stuff so why pay for another? If I really want it 100k+ecto is irrelevant, it only drops rare enough number I don't really care I can still afford it. It still leaves me with enough to get anything else I could possibly want.

As such, the only things I'm willing to purchase are max, I can easily find anything less. In fact, I can pretty much easily find most things at max so why even bother to purchase it from you? The only exceptions are if you have something rare enough that I realistically can not farm for and there is little out there that is so. Even then I can afford max so without really having a hardship to do so why get less?

nightwatchman · Jan 16, 2008, 07:54 AM // 07:54

People are just perfectionists. Its weird, but not as strange as the price difference between a purple and a gold when they're both same req, same stats and inscribable.

zwei2stein · Jan 16, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Why buy nonmax weapon to save few bucks if you are eventually gonna buy perfect one?

Its not saving money, its exact opposite!

Besides, noone is selling nonmax upgrades, so trying to find one takes so much time that you could buy max upgrade and and use time you would have spend looking for nonmax one to farm money.

Meat Axe · Jan 16, 2008, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Yeah, it makes little difference, which is why I generally hold on to the close-to-perfect mods for use with BMP weapons or destroyer weapons (when I actually get some) and just sell all the perfect ones. I'm not going to complain if people want to pay much more for something that works only slightly better.

arsie · Jan 16, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

Don't argue practicality with a perfectionist or a collector.

I'm personally quite happy that 14^50 is so much cheaper.

Yawgmoth · Jan 16, 2008, 08:40 AM // 08:40

In PvE it makes no difference, if you can complete it with all very perfect weapons, you could do it just as well only using nonmax purples that are worth absolutely zero.

Overabundance of perfect items and overfarmed cheap greens causes the less than perfect items to be worth far far less. 19% (or 1hp off) versions usually sell at around 1/5 - 1/6 price of a perfect item.

for example: Sundering mod for Sword (20% chance) easily sells for 12k, 19% version goes for around 2k.
If 20% version of an item goes for 5k or less, the 19% version is worth zero.

People who can afford it want everything very perfect, they pay sick prices for Req.8 perfect gold weapons even if they never play with attribute smaller than 11. They feel it's an improvement, and epeen rises.

redant751 · Jan 16, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Why buy nonmax weapon to save few bucks if you are eventually gonna buy perfect one?

Its not saving money, its exact opposite!

Besides, noone is selling nonmax upgrades, so trying to find one takes so much time that you could buy max upgrade and and use time you would have spend looking for nonmax one to farm money.

I have had no problem finding one off mods, just go to L.A. and sit for a few minutes you will see tons of them being offered.

I rather Pay 2-3k instead of 10-12k for a sword sundering mod. (hell my heroes will end up with the Item any way).I have way too much stuff any way

Productivity · Jan 16, 2008, 09:46 AM // 09:46

If you're going to use them in PVP, you use perfect mods. Otherwise, you're letting down your team - they made PVP characters for a reason, don't disadvantage your team purely because you wnat to use an improperly equipped PVE character.

For PVE it hardly matters.

redant751 · Jan 16, 2008, 10:03 AM // 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Productivity

If you're going to use them in PVP, you use perfect mods. Otherwise, you're letting down your team - they made PVP characters for a reason, don't disadvantage your team purely because you wnat to use an improperly equipped PVE character.

For PVE it hardly matters.

I agree you have no reason to use imperfect mods in PVP not when you can get most of the mobs just by playing the Game (you can also buy the pvp unlock packs for $4.99 if you don’t want to work that hard).As Productivity stated Thats why we have PVP characters.

dunky_g · Jan 16, 2008, 11:52 AM // 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by strcpy

From a technical point of view - no no difference.

However, I have 300 or so plat in the bank not including other "wealth" - for quite a number out there I'm poor. If one takes into account my "other" wealth (thing not in just what GW shows as my gold) I'm well over 1000k. Even then, I'm poor.

What better do I have to spend my gold on? I have no reason to find anything other than max - for the vast majority of things out there I have numerous near max stuff so why pay for another? If I really want it 100k+ecto is irrelevant, it only drops rare enough number I don't really care I can still afford it. It still leaves me with enough to get anything else I could possibly want.

As such, the only things I'm willing to purchase are max, I can easily find anything less. In fact, I can pretty much easily find most things at max so why even bother to purchase it from you? The only exceptions are if you have something rare enough that I realistically can not farm for and there is little out there that is so. Even then I can afford max so without really having a hardship to do so why get less?

I think someone loves the e-penis

zwei2stein · Jan 16, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Its more like ... i have the money -> spending it on perfect mods makes whole lot more sense that spending it on pwettier armour or weapons or just having it idle in my storage -> i buy perfect mods.

Avai · Jan 16, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

I normally will get perfect greens for my chars and their heroes now that most greens are so inexpensive. However, if I find a sexy skin I want I'll get as close to perfect mods as I can. Generally I can get a good deal, but if I can save a few plat on a 1% off mod, I'll use it.

I PvP with perfects and elite armor if playing mesmer and paragon. For all other classes I use PvP as I do not have other RP chars.

Yichi · Jan 16, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Most green items come in a good skin, have perfect mods for almost any situation, and 90% of them are dirt cheap.

If you can't find a weapon out of those that have perf mods, than you're just going to have to shell out the money for it.

Avarre · Jan 16, 2008, 01:28 PM // 13:28

Rarity value, same reasons golds are worth more than blues.

Esan · Jan 16, 2008, 01:55 PM // 13:55

My ranger has clocked about 1000 hours. Assuming that entire time was spent plinking a 60AR practice dummy with a shortbow, the difference between a 19% and a 20% chance is 18,000 strikes. Because 20% sundering changes 15..28 to 18.47..34.47, this is a missed net damage of 332,409..620,497.